Help - Sexual Exhaustion

topic posted Tue, May 20, 2008 - 4:39 PM by  hcp
I am 32 years old. I got into the bad habit of ejaculating to online porn in 2000. I got addicted and ejaculated multiple times every day and gradually with the years started to lose my erection power. Now I don't get spontaneous erection or morning wood. I have some nocturnal erections that go away as soon as I become completely awake. During day time I get very very weak erections when I feel horny. My penis is not hard at all and it doesn't "rise" (if you know what i mean)

I would like to regain my sexual power before it becomes too late. I read a little bit about Ayurveda and learnt that Shilajit and Safed Musli can potentially help. Will this work? Is there anything else I need to do?

Many thanks,
hcp
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    Tue, May 20, 2008 - 9:16 PM
    I suggest a tonic from tibetanherbs.com "energy tonic" it has shilijet as an ingredient. You can do nourishing herbs like pure royal jelly mixed with raw honey 50/50, also swedish flower pollen is really good. Oysters, clams, urchins. Cordyceps fungus(aloha brand is the only good one). And of course avoid more ejac for a while to re-build
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    Tue, May 20, 2008 - 9:24 PM
    I suggest a tonic from tibetanherbs.com "energy tonic" it has shilijet as an ingredient. You can do nourishing herbs like pure royal jelly mixed with raw honey 50/50, also swedish flower pollen is really good. Oysters, clams, urchins. Cordyceps fungus(aloha brand is the only good one). And of course avoid more ejac for a while to re-build
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      Wed, May 21, 2008 - 10:40 AM
      Hi Jason,

      Thanks for writing your advice.

      I checked "energy tonic" but it does not list Shilajit as an ingredient?

      Also I am eating raw Bee Pollen instead of taking Swedish Flower Pollen capsules. Do you think this is a good idea?

      I have been suffering from this condition for the past 7 yrs. Is Energy Tonic capable of restoring my sexual function?

      Thx
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    Wed, May 21, 2008 - 3:06 PM
    OK, you need to increase Shukra and Ojas, it would help to be celibate for a while (to recharge) if you can get fresh or unpasturized cows milk it is best, add ten soaked and peeled almonds, add herbs like Ashwagandha, Shatavari, musali (shimule) Fo-ti (Poligonam multiflora) Goksura (Goat head), Kapikachu, American Ginseng, Macca, Astragalus mix these herbs and add one large teaspoon to hot milk ( i cup) as well as Shilajit (1/8 tsp) Raw sugar or honey 1 tsp, and a small pinch of cardamom , (1/4 tsp) nutmeg, and saffron (1/8 tsp each) blend all ingredients and take it every morning

    also you should eat Urad dhal in the diet, learn how to make Dosa (Indian pancake) A good aphrodisiac recipe is to fry Urad dhal in ghee or butter then cook it in milk and add raw sugar to taste, this will definitely work after a couple of weeks.

    fill a mason jar with dates, then make ghee and fill it with warm ghee as well, mix in saffron, cardamom and nutmeg, let it sit for a week, then enjoy one per day (make sure you make the ghee properly)

    Honey, ghee, rice, milk, wheat, oats, Urad dhal, almonds, dates and figs are good to increase shukra, as well as the herbs mentioned above, are good to have in the diet.

    Give it some time and these things will definitely work, of course meat works as well, if you eat it, I do not.
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      Wed, May 21, 2008 - 3:49 PM
      Hi Ananta,

      Thanks for your kind reply.

      By musali (shimule) do you mean Safed Musli?

      I am planning to not ejaculate for 1 month and then do it once in 2 weeks. Do you think that frequency is good?

      I have tried raw milk that i get from this site www.organicpastures.com/. Is it okay to heat it and drink? I am wondering if heating would destroy the beneficial elements in it.

      How long would it take for me to get back my erections?

      Thx
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        Wed, May 21, 2008 - 3:59 PM
        HI, heating the milk is good according to ayurveda, bring it to a boil, then take it off the heat, then bring it to a biol again, with out burning, that is one way, or you can simmer it on low heat for a minute, its easier to digest that way. There are 2 different kinds of musli, both are very difficult to find in the USA, I have a kilo of Semul Musli not Safed Musli both are aphrodisiac, you can get some from me if you like, this is my websitet ayurvedaposters.com/herbs.html

        I think it will take a few months (or more), but these things will definitely work.
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          Wed, May 21, 2008 - 4:10 PM
          I checked out your site. The Semul Musli that you have, is it in the form of capsules?

          I already have Safed Musli and am wondering if I can take both Semul Musli and Safed Musli or should I drop one of them.
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            Wed, May 21, 2008 - 6:19 PM
            both is better because they are different kinds of herbs, it is in powder form, it is best taken with hot milk or cooked in the milk, I thought of some more great herbs, Vidari Kanda( Ipamia Digitata) and a little Pippali (Indian long pepper) to be mixed with the herbs for the milk drink, Chocolate ( with a little pippali or chipotle is nice), my ayurvedic teacher swears by garlic milk at bedtime, he boils garlic in milk and adds ghee and raw sugar and drinks it at night (sounds nasty but he says its best to increase sperm)
            One of the eight limbs of ayurveda is soley dedicated to this, its called Vajikarana (virilization) therapy.

            Always have some ghee or butter with your rice, when you eat rice

            get plenty of exorcise and drink enough water as well.
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              Thu, May 22, 2008 - 12:43 AM
              The energy tonic does have shilijet they call it mineral exudate or mineral pitch
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                Thu, May 22, 2008 - 12:44 AM
                Bee pollen is nothing like swedish flower pollen also
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                  Thu, May 22, 2008 - 12:51 AM
                  Anata you are all over the place with your advice, if you want to study herbs you have to take the terminology seriously, you speak of ojas which is an ayurvedic term then suggest herbs from China and the Americas that are not really ojas tonics...Astragulus is going to do nothing for this condition, fo ti(he shou wu) does have some ojas(similar to jing in Chinese) boosting properties but is quite mild in that regard, american ginseng is a great herb but has little function to treat sexual exhaustion, it couldn't hurt though, Asian ginseng could actually hurt in this case...Maca has some hormone boosting properties but is mild like a yam really.
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                    Thu, May 22, 2008 - 3:44 PM
                    Jason, I have studied herbs since 1993, very thoroughly, the extra chinese herbs that I mentioned couldn't hurt you say, exactly infect they may help the over all condition, how do I know? because I have taken them for many years. I have studied herbs with Dr. Lad and many others. The other herbs that I mentioned are key herbs for revirilization in Ayurveda the only one that I would add is Bala. Again, I know that everything that I mentioned works well because of first hand experience, not just bookish knowledge.
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    Thu, May 22, 2008 - 12:56 AM
    Another two possible reasons could be – one, increase in cholesterol, do a detailed check up of your blood (you will need to diet the night of the day before test) see how the good and bad~ cholesterols are doing. If you have put on weight in the recent past then it is time for good exercise and diet food. Two, if you had been masturbating or making love quite often (with a semen discharge) and then you suddenly slowdown, there is a higher possibility of you developing an enlarged prostrate. By doing DRE or PSA test or an Ultra Scan a Doctor could help you understand current health of your’ prostate. An enlarged prostrate can also cause similar symptoms as you said. There are very good medicines available for such a symptom.

    For all your problems I would recommend an Ayurvedic medicine - Gokshuradi Gulgulu. This is not at all a common medicine and is rare to find (an authentic prep) even in India itself. But this has the absolute effect of recovering your condition in less than 20 days of consumption. One tablet a day early in the morning before food is more than enough. A good vegetarian diet would give faster result.
    Arya Vaidya Nilayam Ltd. (a Madurai, India) based company produce very authentic preparation of this medicine and they can be reached at

    www.avnayurveda.in/AVN-Products.aspx

    www.google.co.uk/search

    www.banyanbotanicals.com/prodinfo.asp

    Nothing to worry of your situation, it is quite often for virile men to develop such conditions and this is quite recoverable.
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      Thu, May 22, 2008 - 2:25 PM
      Jason,

      Thanks for the clarification.

      So what are the herbs than can boost Ojas? I understand Shilajit is one of them.

      I want to clearly state my condition once again - I was healthy with a great libido and sexual function. But from year 2000 I started seeing online porn and ejaculated multiple times per day. I became addicted to this habit and eventually my organ became very weak. 8 years later I have lost of my hair (baldness) and my erections. The most appropriate term that I can use for myself is -> I feel I am sexually exhausted.

      Any herbs that can heal me from this is what I am looking for.

      Raj,

      Thanks for your advice. I had a blood test 2 months ago and my cholesterol looked normal. I feel I am sexually exhausted due to excessive ejaculations for a period of 8 years... I just placed an order for Gokshuradi Guggulu. I hope it helps.

      Thanks,
      hcp
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    Thu, May 22, 2008 - 6:57 AM
    Ginger is any form would be quite good and is classic in Ayurveda as well as French herbalism. Om shanti-paix
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      Thu, May 22, 2008 - 2:25 PM
      Jason,

      Thanks for the clarification.

      So what are the herbs than can boost Ojas? I understand Shilajit is one of them.

      I want to clearly state my condition once again - I was healthy with a great libido and sexual function. But from year 2000 I started seeing online porn and ejaculated multiple times per day. I became addicted to this habit and eventually my organ became very weak. 8 years later I have lost of my hair (baldness) and my erections. The most appropriate term that I can use for myself is -> I feel I am sexually exhausted.

      Any herbs that can heal me from this is what I am looking for.

      Raj,

      Thanks for your advice. I had a blood test 2 months ago and my cholesterol looked normal. I feel I am sexually exhausted due to excessive ejaculations for a period of 8 years... I just placed an order for Gokshuradi Guggulu. I hope it helps.

      Thanks,
      hcp
      • Don't worry, it will come back.

        Fri, May 23, 2008 - 3:11 PM
        For building up shukra, Ananta gives some good advice...Any high quality hot milk with several of the herbs mentioned would be helpful.

        Yet, I would not overdue it, (you have to experiment with it, perhaps start with a cup a week -drink it as hot as possible) as it is a very potent way to rebuild shukra...If you drink a glass of hot milk a day with ginger and honey and or herbs-chances are you'll rebuild very soon and create an unbalanced situation...It takes three weeks for the body to form one drop of semen, imagine what it would do if you produced so much in a day, for a couple of weeks...

        These remedies are meant for people who want to rebuild for the next day, but not structurally. High shukra is not a guarantee for high virility: without the presence of ojas, it would only aggrevate the situation. (ojas, tejas and prana control virility in any form) and could cause the body to ejaculate very soon, only leading to escalation of your situation and even less virility.

        As mentioned in this topic Ojas is of paramount importance, it is a subtle essence, located in the brain that has many functions, one of them is virility, yet anyone who wants to progress spiritually needs high ojas. The sex centre...the Swadhisthana chakra connected to sexual health needs to be 'recharged' also. Ojas is not only depleted by regular ejaculation, but also by mental agitation: sexual desire, fear, stress. Seek balance: healthy diet, a lot of fruit, excersize moderatly, spend time in natural surroundings, limit tv, computer time (destroys ojas) and let your shukra rebuild naturally and steadily.

        Try to cultivate a relaxed, confident and loving attitude. Try, for as long is necessary (this could be a few months) to be brahmacharya (non-sexual): that means physically, emotionally and mentally. Even if you refrain from sex physically, thinking of it all of the time will destroy ojas=virility. Don't give into the urges that caused this problem. You will experience that after a while your virility will return naturally, when your ojas is high enough. Patience is the key.
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          Fri, May 23, 2008 - 3:28 PM
          Thanks Petros.

          Wow this surely seems very complicated... I had no idea that it takes 3 weeks to create 1 drop of semen. I have been seeing porn ejaculating multiple times per day for many years. I think that my body is messed up :(

          I don't know about Ayurveda and so I can't deeply understand about Ojas and Shukra. All I want is a remedy... Some thing that will restore my normal sexual function. That is all.

          Raj has suggested that Ghoksura will rapidly restore my sexual function. I have placed an order for that herb.
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            Sat, May 24, 2008 - 5:44 AM
            Yes, I'm sure it will help a lot, it's all across the the web. I just wanted to point out to you that there is physical virility and 'energetic' virility....

            Sorry about the ayurvedic jargon: Shukra is semen, whereas Ojas is essential to semen and to viritlity, as to a lot of other areas of human existence. Ojas is a subtle essence and can be defined as: the digested essence of all food, impressions and experiences.

            It is needed to perform sexually, it's existence can't be proven scientifically as it's function is sort of psycho-somatic. You're body is not messed up...you're ojas is very low, not only because of the physical depletion of the semen, as ojas leaves the body with the semen, but also of the constant mental and energetic agitation (sex is all in the mind) . An ejaculation involves a great deal of nervous energy, which undermines the balance of ojas.

            That is why I wanted to point out that it is of course essential to rebuild your semen, but if you rebuild to soon, to fast your body will experience the urge to ejaculate, depleting even more ojas, which supports your immune-system, your aura, your stamina...your physical and mental health. That is why the rebuilding of ojas is very important and why it takes time. The best way to rebuild your Ojas is to be abstinent: especially mentally, that will balance and increase Ojas most effectively. You will know, in time, as you're viriltiy returns, the ojas will be balanced.
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              Sat, May 24, 2008 - 11:19 AM
              Goksura, tribulus is a great herb but mild for this condition, far from rapid results...Mineral containing herbs are of paramount importance. As I understand the most effective way to treat this condition is with nutritionus mineral rich herbs, then after a foundation is restored-which could take some time of taking jing/ojas tonics, one can switch to herbs that boost function (qi, not sure how to describe in ayurveda, maybe pitha) such as american ginseng, astragulus, cordyceps(one of the best herbs for sex exhuastion because it boosts form and function, ashwanganda does also but is much milder in the function dept)...Royal jelly, shilijet, oysters, urchins those superfoods full of zinc and other important minerals that one loses with ejac...There are many herbs that help this condition, but what is THE most effective route?
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                Sat, May 24, 2008 - 11:22 AM
                O sorry I didn't read carefully, he said goksura, I don't know what's in that tonic, Gokshuradi Guggulu..The Tibetan tonic I mentioned does give a rapid result...Can anyone list ingredients of the Gokshuradi Guggulu?
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                  Sat, May 24, 2008 - 11:25 AM
                  Ok, found it,

                  Gokshura fruit (Tribulus terrestris), Guggulu resin (Commiphora mukul), Musta root (Cyperus rotundus), Amalaki fruit (Emblica officinalis), Bibhitaki fruit (Terminalia belerica), Haritaki fruit (Terminalia chebula), Pippali fruit (Piper longum), Ginger root (Zingiber officinale), Black Pepper fruit (Piper nigrum).

                  That Tibetan "energy tonic" is going to be much stronger in my opinion, I know these herbs, its simply not as good a tonic for this condition, you be better off to take my advice
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                    Sat, May 24, 2008 - 1:35 PM
                    Ok I have ordered Swedish Flower Pollen, Energy Tonic, and Gokshura.

                    But I have to choose between Gokshura and Energy Tonic. I am already taking Shilajit.

                    From what I read Gokshura heals the prostate....

                    I am confused as to choose Gokshura or Energy Tonic. I just want my erections back.

                    Jason have you had personal experience with Energy Tonic? Did it restore your erections quickly?
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                      Sun, May 25, 2008 - 8:28 PM
                      Myrabalam ( Haritaki, and Bibitaki) actually dry up shukra, not increase it, but these herbs are good for over all health, if you simply take two or three of the ayurvedic herbs that I mentioned everyday with hot milk it will help a lot, I just mentioned a bunch to give you more option's I wasn't expecting you to order all of those herbs, just musali and vidhari would be enough, to take every day with milk and honey, or ghee. Petros has some good points, it is important to get good exorcise and have good agni as well to metabolize essences of the dhatus and ultimately create shukra and ojas.
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                        Mon, May 26, 2008 - 5:05 AM
                        I have lots of personal experience with it, me and others that have taken it were impressed with the potency. The Goksura tonic to me seems more like a thyroid/liver/digestive/nervous system tonic. Flower pollen is like a strong superfood that restores the semen and nerves, you can combine it with whatever. If you can get prostate and testicles working better erections should come back. The energy tonic works on multi levels so it will give a fairly rapid result compared to other herbs, you should feel something the first time you take it. It is the major formula for sexual excess in Tibetan medicine.
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                          Mon, May 26, 2008 - 5:27 AM
                          By the way I take a high-quality goksura(just that herb, not the Chinese one either which is different)supplement almost every day, I don't think it's much of a sex tonic it's for the nervous system. Sometimes my girlfriend wants sex 3 times a day, after that the goksura doesn't do much to replenish, I take a spoonful of pure royal jelly mixed with honey, or swedish flower pollen or eat some clams and the balls fill back up. For someone jerking off since 2000 you can't rush the healing, however someone saying "just eat some almonds and milk" is like telling someone with advanced stage cancer " just eat papaya" Papaya will prevent cancer but you need the right tool for the job. Whichever tonic you choose to use, just do that one for a course don't mix because that can lessen the result of either. I don't know why that guru would suggest that tonic for sex excess, in ayurvedic herbs I think a better choice would be a tonic containing shiljet, ashwanganda, and kapicatchu or something like that. In a case of prostate cancer it could detox the prostate so that is good, but I dunno
                          By the way I have a degree in Chinese herbs and I consider myself a specialist in herbs for men's health. I also used to jerk off too much when I was younger and have had a lot of really horny girlfriends I have tried all this stuff myself before
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                            Mon, May 26, 2008 - 10:23 AM
                            Goksura is recommended more for Kidneys in Ayurveda but it is good for sexual function in combination with other herbs, if you look at the classic Ayurvedic texts many herbs are suggested and ashwagandha is usually not one of them, even though in modern version of ayurved it is highly recommended, what is recommended in the classic texts are soups and groul made with meat or milk, with wheat, rice, urud dhal, ghee (as well as honey and sugar) and many herbs like Kapikachu, vidari, satavari, draksha, pippali, Bala, Amalaki, musali etc.. Any one is free to have whatever sexual relations (I don't mean to judge you) but this is an Ayurvedic thread and according to Ayurveda having sex more then once a day continuously is highly discouraged and considered harmful. Vatas should have it once or twice a week, and Pittas a little more frequently, and Kaphas more often.
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                            Mon, May 26, 2008 - 1:44 PM
                            Thanks Jason. I have already ordered "Energy Tonic". Now I have to wait for it to come. It says I have to chew it.. How do you usually take it?

                            Ok I am a bit confused by this sentence -> "Whichever tonic you choose to use, just do that one for a course don't mix because that can lessen the result of either". Do you mean I have to take only "Energy Tonic"? I can't add any other supplement? I was planning to take the following:

                            1) Swedish Flower Pollen
                            2) Energy Tonic
                            3) Shilajit
                            4) Safed Musli
                            5) Ecklonia Cava Extract (anti-oxidant that gives erections)
                            6) Vitamin E
                            7) Pycnogenol (contains Proanthocyanidins)
                            8) GliSODin with Pomegranate (prevents the degradation of Nitric Oxide)

                            Can you plz tell me if this list sounds good?
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                        Mon, May 26, 2008 - 1:37 PM
                        Thanks a lot for the info Ananta. I had ordered Chyavanprash and now I have decided not to use it because it contains Haritaki :(
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                          Mon, May 26, 2008 - 2:04 PM
                          hi, I think Chavanaprash is good for your condition, it is a great over all tonic, it is balanced with other herbs (the Haritaki) not to worry, just don't use triphala where it is more concentrated or at least don't use it long term. Rasyanas are great!
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                            Tue, May 27, 2008 - 1:14 PM
                            Yesterday night I had a "wet dream". I am very very surprised.... the last time I had one was in 1991.

                            After reading all the advice given here I went to Whole Foods and purchased Almonds, Walnuts, Dates, and Bananas and ate a little bit of each one of them... I also added some ghee to my dinner. I then went to bed.

                            I actually masturbated in the night and fell asleep later... I had lot of sexual dreams and at one point I ejaculated... This is surprising because I had just masturbated a few hours ago. Then I continued to sleep and after a while I could feel nocturnal erections.

                            I am very surprised... I ejaculated 2 times in one night but still could get nocturnal erections. Is this being caused by the almonds or walnuts or ghee???

                            Plz let me know.

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                              Tue, May 27, 2008 - 8:12 PM
                              could be, but mostly do to sexual thoughts
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                                Wed, May 28, 2008 - 6:44 AM
                                You should really try to stop ejaculating. If you are so sex-obsessed you can't stop, maybe some tulsi herb would help...In Chinese herbs they would give cooling yin tonics like zhi bai di huang wan

                                I'm posting my replies to this poor guy's e mail so that everyone can learn and discuss, I don't think he will mind as this is already going on on the public forum...

                                To get the most out of an herbal formula one should take it by itself, other herbs can actually counteract the effectiveness, also the shilijet in a formula even though of a lower dose maybe is more effective as some herbs boost the assimilation of it. I would stick to one formula and then take with it "food" type herbs, as in take energy tonic with swedish flower pollen and skip the rest of the 8 it's not needed, it's hard to explain this without you becoming an herbalist really, but taking too much "function boosting" herbs such as safid musli, too soon can undo the effect of form building herbs, as in first buil;d form, 2nd build function, the reason the "energy tonic" is so special is because it builds both at once with no risk of damaging form because the forumula is so precisely balanced...Understand? So in otherwords typically tcm (traditional chinese medicine) would tell someone to take jing(ojas) tonics first for several months to re-build form, as in re nutrify the body, restore...this may bring back erection or may not, if the case is severe it won't, but this is how to make permanent change stick, then after restoring, the herbs would switch to "yang" function tonics -IF THEY TAKE FUNCTION TONICS TOO SOON IT WILL UNDO THE FOUNDATION BUILDING!!! Safid musli is a function tonic really, so you could wait to take it, the energy tonic does both, try it by itself and see how powerful...

                                He then asks about taking vena cava that works on the nitric oxide...

                                I write:
                                Anything working on no is like a patch not treating the root just sending more blood, you need to restore your sex organs in a nutritional sense and then repair nervous system damage. Why are you in such a rush? Do you have a hot date with an attractive female? You have been depleting yourself for years so take some time to get better don't rush things you can get better forever if you take it slow and build a foundation, if you rush you can go back to impotent "snap" like that

                                I would try to eat really nutritious foods high in b-vitamins, minerals(zinc) and cholestrol, like egg yolks, oysters, clams

                                Other mineral rich food-like herbs are saspirllia, nettles, royal jelly you can combine those with whatever
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                                  Wed, May 28, 2008 - 8:32 AM
                                  "You should really try to stop ejaculating. If you are so sex-obsessed you can't stop" yeah seems like addiction is the root cause of this
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                                    Wed, May 28, 2008 - 10:10 PM
                                    i totally agree with most of the suggestions above, i really like jason's idea of building your reserves(yin) up before trying any yang related herbs which seem to be more often used for libido/erectile issues.

                                    mainly though, what is the rush? you really do need to build your jing/ojas back up and that does take time and isn't something that should be rushed. maybe you really should explore your desire to look at internet porn so frequently and work on those issues at the same time you replenish your self physically too? i totally mean that with no judgment either, i can say quite confidently that you aren't the only one on this board who has ever looked at internet porn. but really, if you start replenishing your self and end up heightening your libido you may just be medicating and feeding an unhealthy addiction at best.

                                    this conversation also brings up a really interesting point about the relationship of ojas to shukra. it seems to me that in a sexual sense they are very closey related, and since shukra being the end product of the dhatus that transforms into ojas, building shukra would do both to improve sexual function as well as build ojas anyway.

                                    on a personal note, ive used ashwaganda at different points for energy and nervous system calming stuff and noticed almost immediately the effect it had on my libido....17 all over again.
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    Thu, May 29, 2008 - 1:01 PM
    Namaste, you need to ask yourself some hard questions. Why do you need these relationships on the internet? I notice you have no friends and only belong to this tribe for this thread. Boredom should be addressed. As well as opening your heart, and showing yourself - I notice there is no photo on your profile. Holy Basil would bring your higher consciousness in line with your exacerbated lower over stimulated parts. Take 6 months off and learn how relate to people.You do not need to obsess, yet yes, obsession seems to be part of your dosha. Instability is vata aggravation, as well as the focus on the lower body trunk, however much passes through the brain. Try rosemary, you can burn it and inhale to think clearly.
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      Thu, May 29, 2008 - 5:21 PM
      the path to raise the vital energy through the sex chakra (2nd) and on to the 3rd and 4th (heart center) is not an easy journey, like a fish swimming up stream back to its source, yet I highly recommend it, through that long heard journey back to the heart (which is right under our nose all the time) ones being gets transformed into something great, yet something is realized that was there all the time, simply love, not just passion.